Turning Plastic Into Fuel: Innovation vs. Industry

Ever wondered what happens when innovation threatens billion-dollar industries? Our latest episode dives deep into the fascinating world of Julian Brown, a visionary inventor who's developed technology to transform plastic waste into usable fuel.

Brown's process breaks down petroleum-based plastics into Plasteline" and "plastidiesel" – his terms for the gasoline and diesel alternatives he creates. This remarkable innovation addresses two massive global challenges simultaneously: our overwhelming plastic pollution crisis and our dependence on conventional fossil fuels. Imagine the Great Pacific Garbage Patch transformed from environmental disaster into valuable resource!

But as we discover, challenging established energy paradigms comes with serious risks. Brown has reportedly faced threats to his safety, including having lug nuts loosened on his vehicle. This darker side of innovation resistance reveals how deeply entrenched economic interests can obstruct progress toward sustainability.

The conversation expands beyond Brown's specific work to explore how society approaches technological change. We examine other alternative energy pathways – from vehicles running on water to solar-powered cars and hydrogen fuel cells – and how they've struggled against institutional resistance. Throughout our discussion, we contemplate how future generations might view our current dependence on fossil fuels and plastic, drawing parallels to how we now look back at outdated technologies.

Despite acknowledging the powerful forces aligned against sustainable innovation, we remain cautiously optimistic. Social media and information sharing continue to amplify voices like Brown's, gradually building momentum toward environmental solutions. This episode will leave you questioning not just how we fuel our vehicles, but how we fuel progress itself.

Have you encountered other innovators fighting against the system to create sustainable solutions? Share your thoughts and join the conversation!

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Transcript

Introducing Julian Brown's Plastic-to-Fuel Innovation

Speaker 1 0:04

It's Pop McProvert and the Jersey Guy Podcast. How are you, gentlemen, doing today? It's around Everything good.

Speaker 2 0:14

Chilling like a villain, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 0:17

So let's get right into it. Yeah, you guys follow, we have on our page, right? I even follow them on my personal page, nature Jeb. Okay, alright, julian Brown. So you guys follow, we have on our page I even follow him on my personal page, nature Jeb. Okay, all right. Julian Brown, this guy takes plastic, turns it into plasticine, plasticine, plasticine. We're going to look it up and he says it. And Plastidiesel, he does All right.

Speaker 3 0:41

Oh so plasticine means like gasoline, right, but it's from plastic, plastic gasoline, right, but it's from plastic, plastic gasoline Right.

Speaker 1 0:46

That's the name for it, that he gives it.

Speaker 3 0:47

Okay, all right, all right.

Speaker 1 0:49

And he does it when he makes it for diesel as well, and he has this stuff machines that he works on and he does it and he runs people's equipment with it and he keeps refining it. He shows you how it looks when he first breaks down and then he refines, he cleans it up and it looks just like gasoline like it's you know it has the same kind of you know texture.

Speaker 1 1:10

He's able to take the plastic break it down, it smells differently I don't know that's a curious question, but the idea that someone could come up with an idea to say, hey, this is our way or one of the ways we can get the plastic and get rid of it and use it so we do it the right way, versus trying to fucking bury it and put it places and it's in the ocean and we can get rid of it.

Speaker 3 1:32

Well, it makes sense. Gasoline is petroleum-based, plastic is petroleum-based. Yeah, and he says that, and he says that in his videos.

Speaker 1 1:39

If you watch him, you go on. He's on Instagram. He's on Facebook. I. If you watch him, you go on. He's on Instagram, he's on Facebook. I think he's on TikTok as well, if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure he's on all of them. Whatever it is, he's probably on it. This guy is very smart and he's been doing it for quite a while, and I did reach out to him because I wanted to get him on the podcast. I thought it would be cool. I knew it was a shot in the dark, but I was like, fuck, we'll just do a podcast about him anyway.

Plastic Pollution and Resistance to Change

Speaker 1 2:01

So it doesn't matter because what he's doing is good stuff. Yeah, you know, I love that because that's people showing, but then of course they run into problems. Right, you know? Right, higher forces, right.

Speaker 3 2:13

Yeah, well, that's the thing. I was like how's this guy alive?

Speaker 1 2:18

you know, yeah, he's already run into kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 2:21

Yeah, already. Yeah, you know where he's, you know you said lug nuts.

Speaker 1 2:24

What happened? Yeah, it was where lug nuts were loosened on the tire of his car and they came up. Yeah, he was like at least five of them, you know. At one point his mother was, you know said hey, he's fine, I just can't give you his location, this, that. And he wasn't. He's still. Fortunately, he's still with us and he's doing what he's doing and he's showing us that, hey, there's another way to do this. This is one way. It doesn't have to be the only way, you know. Yeah, however, you can come up with it to make that stuff go away, so we don't use it anymore. We got to get away from plastic. Man, that's like the death of us. That's like the death of us.

Speaker 2 3:03

That's shit. Yeah, it is man. Definitely. Well to take what we have already, because what did you say? What did we have floating in the ocean? Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 3:09

So that's what.

Speaker 1 3:09

They clean it up, but it still comes back. I mean like the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, Right.

Speaker 3 3:19

That'll be gone. Yeah, it'll be like priority. Everybody like get it out, get it out of the ocean.

Speaker 2 3:23

Yes, but it's not the money, you know, and that's, you know, like I've said before, the big business. You know what I mean. This is you know, that's why they. They have the when you could take the oil from fast food restaurants you know, oh yeah, and they run into cars.

Speaker 1 3:39

You can do that too, yeah you. Yeah, there's a bunch of different things you can do with it. Yeah, but that's the way to go to get us away from that shit, man Right.

Speaker 2 3:46

Right, but you know it's not yeah.

Speaker 1 3:48

But I think it is. I just think that people are stuck in their ways. Yeah, you know, things got every time when something was invented in this country and somebody did something. They took a chance and they figured it out.

Speaker 2 4:12

Now it's mine. Well, I mean, that was something I had said to you guys before. It's a gaffy duck, my, my, my. You know this is something like I said, but he's not the only one.

Speaker 1 4:21

I'm sure there's other people doing that, yeah.

Speaker 2 4:22

But so the big car companies Ford, I believe, is one I'm going to bring for right now but I believe that Lee Iacocca had turned around and said that he can call up the factory right now and this is like 25 years ago that he said this that he could just call up the company and they change one or two components in the engine of how and or what it burns and we could run off of corn oil, like we don't need to have gasoline. Yeah, they knew then too, exactly.

Speaker 1 4:52

So then I mean it was way back when and they knew this, they know this, you know it's a little bit political right now, but you know, it's just like I said it's, yeah, I think it's, yeah, I think it's it's. People are pushing it. Society's changing, people are getting older, people are, you know, you know, dying off Right Now the other generations are coming after us and they're going to be the ones, and hopefully they.

Speaker 2 5:25

The old stuff isn't as efficient as the new stuff isn't as efficient as the old stuff. So then, us being so, you know. So we'll take, like right now, efficiency. I can fill up my gas tank with a full tank of regular fossil fuel gas and it'll get me further than battery charge and or probably the hybrid. At the same time, it's going to take me five minutes at a gas station to fill up my gas tank, as opposed to a half hour 40 minutes. Right, having to recharge my battery, right?

Speaker 1 6:01

I get that.

Speaker 2 6:01

I'm saying so that's yeah yeah, that's, that's what people think or believe. You know. On top of that sorry to cut you off, bro, you know it's also. Well, if I can turn, if I'm, how do we get the batteries, the charger? It's got to get fossil fuel or some kind of. You know already what you guys are saying is bad ways to charge. No, I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 6:23

What I'm saying is is that if you figure out a way to take the stuff that we were using, what in our food, in our bottles of water, in our fricking stuff in our refrigerator, everything is plastic. Right, we get away from that. It's petroleum. You break it down the right way, the way he's doing it, naturally, the the way he has to break it down to get it, and then you get rid of it and then you just burn it. There's, there's a plot, plentiful to to go around. Right, that it's you know.

Speaker 1 6:53

But then by the time they figure that out and they get it going, it'll be something else that they come up with. Hopefully will be even better. You know that will lead them in a different direction. That's my whole point is that don't have the mindset you know, be safe and guard it and go. Well, no, we don't want that. This is the way it's going to be. Period. End of discussion. When, no, it doesn't have to be that way, because things change and get better and that's what we're about and that's what you want people to do. And this kid he is, he's smart, he's fucking with me. He's got his own products, like the deodorant has aluminum in it and it's bad for you and what?

Speaker 1 7:25

it leads to and everything. I knew that, and I already was using aluminum-free deodorant, so I was like, yeah, nope, not doing that anymore. See, that's what I'm talking about. So, a little at a time, keep pecking away. At some point maybe we'll see it at the end of our journey where it starts breaking through the way it should be, maybe a little earlier, who knows? Yeah, but it's happening and that's a good thing. Unfortunately, you have other forces out there that want to.

Speaker 3 7:52

Like I said earlier, more selfish and they're like no, you can't talk.

Corporate Interests vs. Sustainability

Speaker 1 7:57

This is us and you can't have a piece of it, and I don't give a fuck. And that's just the wrong way fuck, and that's just the wrong way, because that's it's not. I mean. I know it regardless. If it's wrong, it's still happening, right, you know. Hopefully it won't yeah agreed, it's great. Yeah, it's absolutely agreed. It's all about money, it's always about money.

Speaker 2 8:12

Yeah, that's all, that's. What about the?

Speaker 1 8:14

remember when you hear that, that conspiracy theory or I don't know if it's a story about the guy who had a car. He made it run from water. He could get it run from water, well yeah, Remember. And that guy disappeared, disappeared.

Speaker 2 8:25

But don't, isn't he about, isn't somebody else the?

Speaker 1 8:27

one who had the one car even Jay Leno talked about this where you could put anything in the vehicle and only one spark plug, right, if I'm not mistaken and you could run anything in it, from alcohol to perfumes to anything, and that car would run off of it anything and that car would run off of it, and that guy disappeared too.

Speaker 2 8:43

He has it in his museum, doesn't?

Speaker 1 8:46

he Doesn't. Leno have it in his garage. He might, he might, but it goes to show you. You know, people are protective because it's big money right.

Speaker 2 8:51

Who are you talking about? Well we already know, we already talked about it. That's what we here on the show had spoken on.

Speaker 3 8:59

That one light bulb.

Speaker 2 9:01

It's that, like the one light bulb, there's a light bulb that's been burning for like a hundred years. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Oh good man, In New York City, at the they make your refrigerators. It's a breakdown cooking. Now it's in a firehouse in the city. So then now they make things On purpose.

Speaker 1 9:16

To break down, and they know how long it'll take.

Speaker 2 9:18

It's going to because is where they're looking at it. You know you got to come back and buy another light bulb. You got to come back and buy another car. You have to go and get that car tuned up. You have to go buy more spark plugs.

Speaker 1 9:28

You know you got to do that On, and, on, and on.

Speaker 2 9:30

So then they never make anything that's going to last, because it's the residual money.

Speaker 1 9:38

But I think one day it will be like that freaking bananas.

Speaker 2 9:40

So then you're going to need a new plasma torch to cut through whatever. You're still going to need a new flux capacitor to get your car.

Speaker 1 9:49

This guy's still with microwaves turning plastic into freaking fuel. Why do you say that Things have already changed already you?

Speaker 2 9:55

don't always need that, I know. But I'm saying but big business is still where it's going to be.

Speaker 1 9:59

Well, I'm saying I'm saying you're going to get people who want it to be like that because they want to keep that. Yeah, because they're afraid of change it goes back to what we're saying, but at some point it's going to change. It's going to change. Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky.

Speaker 2 10:13

Well, that's even questionable right now, just saying that's what the song says yeah, because, like I said, it's just big business is going to always want to stay to make that money. You know what I'm saying? Right, but eventually. But no, it's just going to change how they're making that money. I don't think it's going to change that. They're not going to be making the money.

Speaker 1 10:29

Well, I'm hoping for a different. I'm hoping that it'll get to the point where you know, because this generation is nothing like we are and mindset. So see, maybe you're right, maybe it will be. We won't be around to see it, yeah, but hope it's a good thing.

Speaker 2 10:48

Well, like I said, it just has to be a way. I mean, because for me right now I don't see how it is that it wouldn't be big business having a hand in it, or anything in the future that they that would change. So I mean, even like we talk about, let's just say, clean energy.

Speaker 1 11:06

Well, maybe it'll be more disciplined, it won't be as fucking cutthroat and it won't be, you know. You know one way, you know. In other words, it's more of a cooperation. Yeah, maybe the money will still be in it, but maybe it'll work differently and, as the money is concerned, they figure out a way. Okay, I don't have to have all the money and it's all right that everybody else has a piece of the pie and live better lives and less. You know struggle you know. Hopefully that's maybe that way.

Speaker 1 11:33

Yeah maybe, of course, money's probably never going to get out of the picture, but maybe it'll. We'll finally figure it out. And you know and say I don't have to have all of it, yeah, out. And you know and say I don't have to have all of it, yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, do I really need this much to live? Yeah, you know what I mean. Like I never had that kind of money and I can't say that how I would be. I would hope that, like let's say, if god, we won that, god forbid. But let's say we won the, we won the lotto. Right, it's not god forbid, that's god. Please, yeah, god, please, well, whoever, please, right, right, whoever the higher powers be, and if it happens and now you can do anything.

Speaker 1 12:06

But I think, because I think if I won the lotto when I was 24, yeah, I probably would have blew it around hell yeah but now, where we're at in our lives, now you would think about it, you would do everything to protect it, to make sure you still had it, that you didn't lose it, make sure it lasts Right and make sure it lasts, and then you would still get stuff.

Speaker 1 12:24

but you won't go crazy because you don't need to, because you know you only get what you. You know, you're comfortable, you and your wife go. You know what? Let's get a camper. We're going to go take the kid and drive around.

Speaker 3 12:36

I would be thinking also like and Plastic.

Speaker 1 12:39

yeah, From plastic and put it in, whether it's diesel or RV.

Speaker 2 12:45

Well, that's the thing, you just take a portion of it. Like he said, you know, if his kids well, like even for us, you know our kids are older, but you know, and they, you know, thank God they're pretty good, you know they're okay, right, but that then we would turn around and make sure that our kids are set up age and I'm only saying struggling, you know, for lack of a better word. You know, but not having to work as hard, I guess we'll say you know that they can take it easy, that there'll be. You know that they can retire with no it's just the way things have changed, man.

Speaker 2 13:13

It's just, it's the way of the you know, I say that God won't bless me with hitting the lotto because I would take half of it and basically give it away Like I would walk with, you know, bags of money. No, you wouldn't, bro.

Speaker 1 13:28

You're full of shit. Let's get on the subject. Donnie, Are you kidding me? Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 13:34

Well, finish my sentence Go ahead, no, go ahead. So then I would take the bags of money and go to like the children's hospital, you know, and give money to the families that are there because you know they're there at the hospital with the kids. So then I would look away, give it to charity and stuff, you know. Some of that money, I would turn around and try to invest it in something like you're saying, like with the plastics and stuff like that. So then you know that that's we're trying to make the world better.

Speaker 1 13:59

Oh, I see what you're saying. So you would just, you would find certain what, but you wouldn't just give the money. You're not giving the money away, so what you?

Speaker 2 14:05

would do right, you have donation places that you you find that you're like this one I want to put money to, and that one, or make sure these people get the money right.

Speaker 1 14:13

However, it goes right. Yeah, no, I I agree with you on that. I I misunderstood what you were telling totally. I I just pictured you walking down the street with fucking money, fucking million bags.

Speaker 2 14:21

I'm like what the fuck? Come on, really, I mean Mayweather, bro, only Mayweather does that shit.

Speaker 3 14:24

Boom, but I was like no, I'm talking about like I was going giving away to the families and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 14:30

You know, just do things like that you know, Investing into things war back right, yeah, because when I was, I had the wisdom now and the experience you're like I don't need all of that right.

Speaker 1 14:46

This is enough for me to live with you know yeah and then at least now I know I don't have to worry about anything.

Speaker 2 14:50

Yes, right, so and like just relax.

Speaker 1 14:53

You go and come in with you, please, and do what you want. Take care of your family. I mean, like what would you?

Speaker 2 14:59

want for chase right to, to, uh, or what would you hope that chase is going to learn from you giving him, you know, money if you won the lotto, you know I'm saying or what would you hope for him to be a part of in the future? That's going to be better for the him and the planet. You know, like you would do these things to try to set him up to be better. On the other end, you know, and I don't know, man, I just think that you know. There's just so many ways.

Speaker 1 15:29

Sorry my bad. I was watching a video on his thing. I apologize.

Speaker 2 15:33

And, like I said, like with this guy doing and you know all these inventions that he has, you know it's like bro, I wish that there were more kids.

Speaker 1 15:43

There's a lot of people out there that do a lot of crazy things. There is a lot of people that do it.

Speaker 2 15:46

There are I just wish they had more notoriety.

Recycling, Infrastructure, and Alternative Energy

Speaker 1 15:48

Well, you see it on when you look at you, you, yeah, I guess, yeah, you're right, they should have more, but but the social media helps them what we didn't have, right, exactly so that helps them promote themselves in any talent or any direction. Really, when you think about look at people who have become famous of just being you know boxing music, right, you know like just from because they were you know social media, it's amazing that technology alone, so that direction, everything's going to change, man, it's just going to be.

Speaker 2 16:20

That's why I'm going to have to agree with you. I'm going to have to agree with you with that, bro, because social media as a whole is what is bringing all those good ideas to light. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And now people are like oh snap, you could do that. Oh snap, we could make that happen. What? No way. Like the dude making the car run on water.

Speaker 1 16:41

Yeah, but that guy disappeared and that was years ago.

Speaker 2 16:43

I don't know what I'm saying. That was years ago. It's one of those things.

Speaker 1 16:45

So I'm saying so. This kid knows that what he's doing for him it's scary, but he's still sticking it out and and I, I, uh, you know, I commend him for that because he's trying to do the right thing, to help, not to hurt, right. But of course, other forces seem to look at it a different way, because they look at it as a threat when it's not, when they could be helping the planet, and why, you know? I mean like I don't understand the mindset. Yeah, that's what I mean and I get what kenny said, because I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying, that, nope, they want it like this and nobody else could have, you know, and that's it. And that's scary. This kid, he's got, he's pushing through and he's doing, he's following his dream and he's looking to help the planet out and people out.

Speaker 2 17:29

Do something, because and we need more of that Absolutely and even think about it like this. By no means am I saying that this is healthy. Go and do it. I'm just going to say, like where it first started. So we're looking at vaping. Vaping was totally opposite. Not even the same people like the tobacco companies had nothing to do with it, right, yeah?

Speaker 3 17:50

And it was just like vegetable glycerin, exactly With some flavoring.

Speaker 2 17:54

Right, and then if you wanted nicotine added to it.

Speaker 3 17:57

you could add it. You could add it, but now it's just like.

Speaker 2 18:00

And then now tobacco companies got in on it and the other chemicals. And now they added all those other chemicals and it's now just as bad. Actually, it's worse than smoking a cigarette. Now we can make more money, right, because now, because now they got into it, right, you know? So then the same thing with-.

Speaker 1 18:14

And they make it addictive, and then they buy more and same with the cigarettes?

Speaker 2 18:17

Yep, and I'm saying so that then now with this kid dude, do you know what that is? I would love to have that mental where I'd be able to just take a fucking a couple of water bottles that I have at the house, throw them into this groovy ass microwave that I've got and make gas for my car. Dude, do you know that it cost me $50 to fill up my gas tank? Yeah, I believe it.

Speaker 1 18:38

Yeah, mine's about $30.

Speaker 2 18:40

Yeah, A little over $30.

Speaker 1 18:41

Imagine making your own gas Dude, if I made my own gas. Bro, let me ask you a question Don't you think at some point, when we're talking about fuel and making fuel and being able to be independent, shouldn't at some point we should be where Americans should be self-sustained, in other words, they don't have to go through a company that supplies the energy for them. In other words, they could do it on their own. So now they have their own, self-sustained, whether it's using you know, they come up with their own type of generator or they have their own fuel and they don't have to worry and they just Imagine how great.

Speaker 3 19:14

Great would be when it wouldn't have the need for power lines anymore right power lines or or you know just that's wireless, right like because there's so many different kind of things.

Speaker 1 19:22

You see, now what when they're doing with the power, with the magnets and everything like that, and these things just run forever and they you know it's like it would be because it could work right. But again it falls into the same thing with this young man because but but social media, I always share the shit, I have it on our on on instagram and on facebook because I love. I think that stuff is great when people come up with these ideas and that, like kenny said, I wish I had the mentally be able to sit down.

Speaker 1 19:50

You know what I could take two speaker magnets and I'll take it and then I'll run this fan and get it going, but I'll also be solar, yeah, at the same time. Yeah, you know like, yeah, yup, you know, like. I want more people like that in the world.

Speaker 2 20:07

You know, oh yeah, absolutely, it would be freaking fantastic and I think there is, I think.

Speaker 1 20:15

So, like I said, social media definitely brings about it, like the algorithm you said, if you watch a certain thing, you'll have a lot of it. So when we hit that stuff on our Instagram and Facebook, I shit out of it, especially if it's something really cool, like the bike when we were talking about earlier Uh-huh. You know I mean so.

Speaker 3 20:30

You know what it's not. Imagine how much nicer neighborhoods would look without telephone poles.

Speaker 1 20:35

Yeah, yeah. Why are they above ground on me? They should be underground. I forgot, but it was a thing about that.

Speaker 3 20:39

So like the problem is, is you do it like flooding and stuff like that? Oh okay and like. So, like I remember, cause we have our own electric company in town, we got Butler Electric. I remember there was a there might there might be like one spot or they maybe they shared a video and like it was like a disaster. They had like flooding and but the flooding was electrified because the underground and then it just shorts everything out.

Speaker 3 21:03

And the guy from the. They wrote like this is why underground everybody likes underground, electric, electrical and until stuff like that you have fiber octopuses, you have all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 21:14

Yeah, yeah, and they could be using the technology is definitely there for it, I think it's just the money Exactly.

Speaker 2 21:21

Do I want to spend more?

Speaker 1 21:21

But they want to make the money, but they don't want to spend the money, right?

Speaker 2 21:24

Yeah, Listen bro. That makes no sense, but that's business.

Speaker 1 21:27

Yeah, In the future you got to get with the program. You know what I mean. You got to take chances and everything.

Speaker 2 21:35

I'm with you, brother, I am with you.

Speaker 1 21:36

I'm just saying yeah, that's what we need to do, yeah.

Speaker 2 21:39

Because this is just listen as a planet, as a planet exactly Because you know what, right now, from the way that things are going, we have the different ideas. Bottom line, though, is that if we keep doing what we're doing regardless, it's gonna end. You know, I'm saying like the planet is gonna just look at how many sinkholes we have from the mining, you know around the planet. You know, just in the states alone, how many just the sinkholes. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 22:12

That alone is freaking, killing people, you know that's the wild part too, is like this stuff is like from over 100 years ago.

Speaker 1 22:19

Yeah bro 150 right yes but now it's time to break down these huge sinkholes.

Speaker 3 22:24

You're like what about the stuff we do today? Yeah, is that going to the people that like the effective later down the line like two generations from now we're gonna do it some.

Speaker 1 22:33

Yeah, why, a why is Blacktop so bad? Huh, blacktop. I don't even know. You were talking about the sinkholes, right Right, but what Blacktop Our roads here, right In Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 22:44

New York.

Speaker 1 22:44

Well, pennsylvania has some decent roads, but Blacktop in general. I mean you go drive in New York or wherever it's like-.

Speaker 3 22:49

Because they don't spend enough money to do it over.

Speaker 2 22:52

Oh, that's what you mean. Yeah, I thought you meant like it was bad for you.

Speaker 1 22:55

No, no, no. Mark Topps is like almost like 90 something percent recyclable.

Speaker 2 23:01

So let me tell you.

Speaker 1 23:02

And you can put supposedly they were supposed to melt the tires and they break them up and they melt, and it's supposed to make it better or whatever. But do they actually really do that, or is that just something? They just no?

Speaker 2 23:11

it's true. So again, this is where big business under cover.

Speaker 3 23:15

Right, yeah, they got to figure out how to.

Speaker 2 23:16

That's what it burns the rubber, it chips it out or whatever.

Speaker 1 23:19

That's why the tires get worn out and such the way that it is Right and they use that and it makes it better for them to expand and move and contract.

Speaker 2 23:30

Right. So it's the same thing if you go, like you know, when highways and shit, it's the same difference it's. But it's all about the money, right, because you know we got to keep this going. We got it right, you know.

Speaker 1 23:39

And then like they have the stuff where we can right they gotta suck out of it as much as they can, not even the tires, but you know, imagine how many people have tires. You ever go past properties and people have mounds of tires and shit like that again just get it from those people. If you want to get rid of them, you get rid of it, you can get it.

Speaker 1 23:58

Those people say, hey, listen, you bring your tires, we could use it on our asphalt or whatever they're supposed to do, I don't know how that works, but they can get money for it.

Speaker 2 24:06

Well, look at what.

Speaker 1 24:13

So right now they'll take them for nothing. In other words, now you don't have to worry about all that being on your property.

Speaker 2 24:19

Yeah, so then now, what they use with the old tires. They use them in playgrounds, they recycle them so you could turn around and use it for the place of the mats underneath the swings and such like that. Make it for the ball pits, or I say for the flower pots once in a while, so I mean there's a bunch of different things that you know you can do with all of that stuff, recycle it, so this way it's not sitting in a landfill. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 24:40

So this is going to be worthwhile.

Speaker 2 24:42

But again, depending on what you're using it for, what you're looking to use it for that big business, because there are tools, machines that break down the tires, that break down a lot of the stuff that we use, that we don't have access to. You know, it's a $100,000 machine to break down the tires, to make them small enough to where we can throw them into that super hot oven or, you know, into that vat of acid where we're going to be able to pull the metal that's in, you know, the steel belts and the you know, or the radios or the tires in. You know the steel belts and the you know, or the radios or the tires. You know what I mean. Like, it's just all those things that we us, we can just throw right here in the backyard and, you know, make it happen. We don't have one, the knowledge, you know, or the space to turn around, and, you know, go to money, the space and everything to do that Big business does.

Speaker 2 25:31

Well, you know, only a millionaire is going to space. Now, right, exactly, yeah, you know, and it's just billionaires, billionaires, but billionaires. I want to be a billionaire, so freaking bad, you know, I don't want to be, I do bro, later for that I, I would, I because I feel like you, can't be a billionaire without being evil no see, I don't know.

Speaker 3 25:52

I feel like you have to, yeah, do some evil shit like like you could be a millionaire right and not be evil, but like, if you're a billionaire, like how do you to get that much money? You have to do some evil shit I don't know right, you have to be fucking some people over. Real bad whoa again.

Speaker 1 26:09

Listen, you know, okay, I guess a lot of times it's inherited. Some do it on their own, but yeah, how do you get that kind of money?

Speaker 2 26:17

Okay.

Speaker 1 26:18

I mean, that's just out of our field. We'll never know that.

Speaker 3 26:21

I feel like from an ethical standpoint, just hoarding that kind of money, that's hoarding. At that point, Like you're, you can't who. What were you spending the money on? It's hoarding.

Speaker 2 26:30

Well, that the whole point it gives you power, you're just yeah. Right. Money is power. You know what?

Speaker 3 26:33

billionaires are. They're dragons sitting on a pile of gold. Yeah, pretty much. That's a good analogy.

Speaker 1 26:41

I like that Someone else came up with that analogy, yeah yeah, yeah, no, but it's all right to use it, but it's okay to use it.

Speaker 3 26:55

It's a good analogy. Well now, from what?

Speaker 2 26:56

I had understood it really does, the more billionaires there are the more fucked up the economy gets.

Speaker 3 27:01

because there's no money, there's no economy being stimulated.

Speaker 2 27:05

They're sitting on billions of dollars, but doesn't that money, isn't it? Basically, it's not liquid money.

Speaker 3 27:11

Well, has something happened, right Well I know it goes into stocks Cause it's so right, but technically, you're not to be able to.

Speaker 1 27:17

that is another. There was a whole big thing. Yeah, cause, they're not supposed to, certainly, but they did because Musk wound up doing that, doing what he gave, you know. So, in other words, he was, he didn't have the money not in it, but whatever, Because he liquidated other stuff Because it was all in, it was in credit. It was with stock market stuff it was all that Got it.

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Speaker 2 27:37

You know what I mean. Right, Well, and then you go, so then so, but that's not you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 27:42

I mean, that's just yeah. I don't understand any of that stuff.

Speaker 2 27:53

hands down and that's what I'm saying. So then, this kid making you know, or anybody taking anything to recycle it, decompose it, restructure it whatever it is to break it down, to make it to what we can, you know, for something that we can reuse. Like I said, it's great we turn around, we take Coca-Cola bottles or soda bottles and cans and we you know, clean them up.

Speaker 1 28:17

They did it with World War II, right, right, they told people to bring all their metal or whatever they had, so they could help, so they could build planes and tanks and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 28:26

But again, war is money.

Speaker 1 28:30

It shows you that it can be done is what I'm saying yes, definitely so. It doesn't necessarily have to be that setting or that atmosphere. I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 28:37

Right, okay, all right, fair enough I got you, they needed it.

Speaker 1 28:40

They got people to get it for them and they used it and it helped them through the war. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 28:49

And that's where the clincher is, bro, For people. You know you said that you guys are saying before, you know, taking that the kids, now, you know, the younger, next generation or next two generations, that they're going to be able to see past all of this stuff. You know, I like to use that. You know, I remember I read an article a bunch of years ago and it said how the Saudis, you know the Arab nations, how they've basically moved on from fossil fuels, you know, from selling it, mining it, whatever, because they realized that there's, they could see the bottom of the barrel now. So now, what are they going to do? So now, that's why, like Dubai and stuff, you know stuff like that you know the whole United Emirates, how they're now a real estate thing.

Speaker 3 29:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the place to go.

Speaker 2 29:42

Because they had to shift from oil. They had to shift from the oil, from the fossil fuels, to now making themselves into the next super attraction.

Speaker 3 29:45

Yeah, so they are the las vegas, the 10 times bigger las vegas. Yeah, because, because you know the the other prince was like the first one, that hotel.

Speaker 2 29:50

That was the first thing he put up.

Speaker 3 29:51

He's like I don't want a five star hotel, I want a six star hotel. What can we do to get it Six-star? Yeah right.

Speaker 2 29:56

Yup Bro, they're building cars over there. That was the first thing, that was the one that looks like a table.

Speaker 1 30:00

Where's this set? Yeah, there's a table in the United Emirates. Okay, that building is 100% green.

Speaker 2 30:18

Well, my son's college in Ithaca they have green buildings where the plants are growing on the roof, on the roof and whatnot.

Speaker 1 30:21

It's part of the roof, the grass or whatever it is that they have up there.

Speaker 3 30:23

Speaking of, green and University of Ithaca. Tom Green went to the University of Ithaca. Oh, did he? No, he didn't. It was in the movie.

Speaker 2 30:30

Road Trip, road Trip I. Road trip, road trip. I forgot about road trip. Sorry, that's funny. Well, check this out.

Speaker 1 30:37

We were talking about, like recyclers. So Milan uses waste to energy Plants to generate energy from non-recyclable waste, including incineration, and at the Scylla 2 plant, this process, also known as energy from waste, converts waste into usable heat electricity. Additionally, milan has a program for collecting food waste and composting bags, which is used to produce yoga biagos and soil. What is that? Okay you're gonna have to read that for me agos biagos and for soil remediation remediation, remediation, right, yeah, you see so happy remediation, remediation.

Speaker 2 31:16

Remediation, remediation.

Speaker 3 31:17

Right.

Speaker 1 31:18

Yeah, you see. So how does your IOMIC look?

Speaker 3 31:19

Remediation, remediation.

Speaker 1 31:20

So yeah, but so they, the lot is big with that. They use everything, pretty much everything, on that Right.

Speaker 2 31:26

Well, where is it? Is it Greenland or somewhere over there that they use thermal? Energy to heat up their heat, that they use thermal energy to heat up their heat and cool their houses.

Speaker 1 31:35

Why not? Well, that's what I'm saying. Well, they sell that kind of air conditioning, they sell that kind of cooling system here in the United States.

Speaker 3 31:42

Because the whole way it works is, you know, like a wine cellar is a constant 55 degrees right. It doesn't change. So if you take the air that you are cooling, for your house. From there, it doesn't need much power.

Speaker 2 31:57

It's the same thing for heat.

Speaker 3 31:59

Okay, instead of it being 20 degrees outside, you're heating the air at 55 degrees Right, you're not running the heating coil through.

Speaker 2 32:06

Yeah, right, right, and there you go. Yeah, and that's why I'm saying so. Now imagine well, not imagine, they actually do this. This is that you're taking solar power right and that's your energy. Well, the sun is now the best thing you could do right and then, and, or some places is wind power now you use the thermal, the thermal energy idea or thermal heating and cooling system, right and now you know they make machines so they can take the air, pull the air in and make water from right, and that was the other thing you were telling us.

Speaker 2 32:36

But now they're also doing the cars that run on the water, on hydrogen.

Speaker 1 32:41

Right, so they're doing that. They've been working on that for a while, but I think they're getting close now to the way To make it more efficient. More efficient and where it would be more feasible to do rather than have electric.

Speaker 2 32:54

I mean you know.

Speaker 1 32:55

Why not?

Speaker 2 32:55

But then now, do you remember back in the day when they had the cars, the electric cars that they had? The solar panel was the roof. So instead of having a sunroof, it was solar panels on the roof of the car Right, and that's what was charging and keeping the car moving Right.

Speaker 1 33:11

Did they have gasoline too? Was it a hybrid?

Speaker 2 33:13

No, bro, it was just straight up solar, 100% solar power on that car. Yeah, I mean, it was a solar project.

Speaker 3 33:18

You could probably still do that now, though, I think they could do that now, and it would just be built into the shape of the car, you wouldn't even see them. You could have it where it's the shape of the car. Yeah right.

Speaker 1 33:28

And that's what they did Sunroof or something.

Speaker 2 33:31

Right, but nobody was giving them the backing.

Speaker 1 33:35

Right Now it's getting the baddest. It's getting there now. Now it's definitely getting there for sure.

Speaker 3 33:41

But see, like it's funny, like that kind of stuff gets suppressed because they could still use it for money, because, like say, you have a fuel cell, right.

Speaker 2 33:50

Right, yes.

Speaker 3 33:50

Like Prius, right, right, that's the most famous fuel. If they were to put those solar powers panels on now you're reclaiming it.

Speaker 2 34:00

You know what?

Speaker 3 34:00

I mean, but you'd still need the fuel for other stuff.

Speaker 2 34:02

You know what?

Speaker 3 34:03

I mean, like, why are they trying to suppress it? Like they want to see that's how scummy they are. It's like oh, uses less fuel, so we can't you know we need to use more fuel.

Speaker 1 34:12

you know, get a V12, it's like you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 34:16

Like they're just right.

Speaker 2 34:19

Yeah, it's just again like we said it's all about money. It's all about that money, bro. It's all about what's going to. Let's just use the shit out of this right now, because there's nothing wrong with the earth.

Speaker 1 34:29

There is no such thing Well, yeah, Well there's nothing Meanwhile, it's Well because what they don't care about is the fact is that they're going to be here for a certain amount of time and they don't care what's going to happen afterwards. They just want to get what they want and that's the end of that. Basically, yeah.

Speaker 2 34:44

And that's it, and that's just a selfish way of doing shit.

Speaker 2 34:52

But I believe that they turn around and that with all up with the, I guess we'll say the fix of those faults. So we're saying so. Now we have the. You were asking about the asphalt, the blacktop, so it's we're going to make the blacktop what is nice and it's going to last through these next two winters, but we're going to make it only to last these next two winters because we're going to have to repave the entire infrastructure and the third one. So we're going to make the next $100 billion off of having to repave everything.

Speaker 1 35:23

They just recycle whatever they use. Look at the bridges.

Speaker 2 35:26

I will say one thing right now, bro the infrastructure fixing is what I'm going to call it. Can we talk about the?

Speaker 3 35:31

bridges for a minute, because I was looking at today, because I was working at Staten Island today I was crossing over, not in Arizona, the one that goes from Jersey to Gothels.

Speaker 1 35:41

Well, it used to be Gothels. It's the newer bridge Right. It's the newer one now, it's two now.

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Speaker 3 35:47

Yeah, but like, okay. So like the original bridges, the suspension bridge, we'll think of the George Washington Bridge, metal, strong steel. Now they got these new ones and it's just like concrete. They're not even connected, they're just pillars going straight up. That boggles my mind. As I'm driving over, I'm like this thing's just going to crumble. It's got holes. It's concrete with holes in it, if I was a giant, I could just go. If I was a giant, I went up to the george washington bridge.

Speaker 1 36:21

Yeah, uh-huh well yeah, no, you don't remember. You don't remember the goths.

Speaker 2 36:25

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that was a crazy bridge, right well, so now here's the thing.

Speaker 3 36:29

So, going by what you're saying, like I the science behind that the brooklyn bridge, yeah yeah, brick, but it's a gate structure, it's yeah, oh, I know what you're saying oh, it's not a solid pillar, it's a still. It's a gate structure. Yeah, oh, I know what you're saying. It's not a solid pillar, it's a still, even though it's known, but there's still.

Speaker 2 36:44

I know what you're talking about. They connect, but these ones just go straight up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 36:47

Does that work?

Speaker 2 36:48

Yeah, it's reverse of that. Right, that's what the idea is. It's reverse of that.

Speaker 3 36:54

Oh, yeah, yeah, but still it's up.

Speaker 2 36:58

Yeah, that's the idea. It's supposed to be that way.

Speaker 1 37:00

Yeah, and don't forget a lot of the bridges like that, the one in Boston, the one that we just put up here you don't need to.

Speaker 2 37:05

What the fun. You can take it away from the view, bro.

Speaker 1 37:07

Mario Como Bridge right.

Speaker 3 37:08

Yes, I know.

Speaker 1 37:09

You got the no, didn't they make it back Kaskioskos, Kaskiosko bro Kaskiosko. He wouldn't even ruin it, man, yeah.

Speaker 2 37:25

But we still get one too, but that one.

Speaker 3 37:32

But all our lives. That's what it was. Kaskiosko, I don't care. Middle of the suspension part. Yeah, Going through the middle.

Speaker 2 37:37

That one's a super little bridge though.

Speaker 3 37:39

Yeah, that one is like 100 yards.

Speaker 2 37:42

You know what?

Speaker 3 37:42

I mean. So it's a little.

Speaker 2 37:43

Yeah, it wasn't that big. Yeah, yeah, it's a little ass thing.

Speaker 3 37:45

So it's.

Speaker 2 37:45

Kosciuszko. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Kosciuszko, kosciuszko.

Speaker 3 37:54

So I think the sidebar Kos, so that's going from Brooklyn to Queens, right? Yes, yes, yes, I believe you're right.

Speaker 2 38:00

I had to think about it. I had to remember where the bridge is. Yes, it's going from Queens to Brooklyn. It's on the BQE.

Speaker 1 38:05

But if the structure is, good though, because if they're rebuilding it and they're doing it, because a lot of these bridges even now, like the older passes and the stuff that you see here upstate, it's like everywhere Now they're making 17 into 86 and they're making it wider, yep, you know it's crazy how they do it and keep making the roads wider. Wider and wider.

Speaker 2 38:26

Yeah 20 years is going to be a 40. Bro, I'm going to tell you what, man? Well, no, because in that 40 years the cars will be basically driving themselves. So then there'd be no accidents.

Speaker 1 38:36

And eating a banana at the same time with a spoon, not everybody trying to fight traffic.

Speaker 3 38:41

It'll be organized.

Speaker 2 38:43

Yeah, it'll be actually organized. Yeah, because you're saying this is where I got to go.

Speaker 3 38:45

Cars are talking to themselves, Plus people won't be so concerned because they're going to be doing whatever they're doing.

Speaker 1 38:49

Right, yeah, you think we'll be that confident to get to that point where we're comfortable with the transportation where we're not going to, you know was driving like that.

Speaker 3 39:03

I'm going to say there's going to be a period where it's a little weird.

Speaker 2 39:04

Well, I'm going to say it's not the we as us in this room, because we're not going to see it them, yeah, so it's going to be the kids, I mean we as a society. I mean that's right Hands down.

Speaker 3 39:15

But I mean like I think there's going to be a period where it's like they're working out the kinks. You know, there was a movie. There was a movie a long long time ago.

Speaker 2 39:23

I'm not doing that and they were showing that there was no more gasoline cars, and I can't remember who the actor was I want to say it was Stallone, so I can't remember the name of the movie, but that he had. Well, it may have been Lee Majors, anyways, who that he had a race car in his garage and something was going on and he needed to take his race car, that he had a little bit of gas for and he had to drive through you know, and there was a plane following him and all that, yeah, and I remember that.

Speaker 2 39:49

So you, know it's one of those things where people aren't going to. So if we're going to get away from fossil fuels, I think that's going to be hands down. I think we're going to get away from all that. And now?

Speaker 1 40:01

I think people are going to still keep the cars and stuff like that too, right as as clad things to show everyone in a while eventually, that's, they're just going to be in museums right, exactly, but I think or parades and things like that.

Speaker 3 40:14

There's going to be like generations from now. They're going to be like wow, wow. So people used to like drive cars themselves. Yeah, like, yeah, you had to worry and not get into an accident with someone Dude what's the? You know people are going to be like. You know like it's going to be so foreign to them.

Speaker 2 40:31

Yeah.

Speaker 3 40:34

You're just going to get.

Speaker 2 40:35

Demolition man right yeah, yeah yeah, with Stallone. Stallone and Wesley Snipes yeah, how come my car turned into a calzone? Yeah, oh, no, a cannoli. Yeah, yeah, right, exactly, you know it's so funny you're talking about because I was thinking about that the other day, for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 40:50

that scene where he has an accident, right, and all the foam comes out and protects him, yeah, and protects him. Yeah, I was thinking about that, I don't know what, that particular thing, but it's funny that we're talking about it right now. That's pretty cool though.

Speaker 3 41:02

It's a real thing. They have expansion foam now, but it doesn't harden. No, it sticks.

Speaker 2 41:06

Right, so you know so when they're switching up they made it well they made it hard in a bag, so when it goes, off.

Speaker 2 41:17

It's in the jacket, yeah, ah, so then. But it doesn't. It's not a foam, it's like a balloon. Okay, so then, like some motorcycle riders especially, they turn around and while they're riding and the jacket is attached by the to the bike, okay. So like if, when it knows that when it gets to a certain angle, degree, or that there's a hard hit on the jacket, that the first initial hard hit would be like, say, if you hit the ground or whatever, that it would and it just expand like balloons up yeah, it's a real thing, yeah, and it stiffens up the neck and the whole thing.

Speaker 3 41:48

That's pretty cool yeah but anyway.

Speaker 2 41:49

So I'm saying in the in these movies, though, is that the cars are driving themselves. I robot, the cars are driving themselves. It wasn't until will smith turned him on, says you know manual.

Speaker 3 42:00

Which one is the one where it goes up the building?

Speaker 1 42:02

Oh, that's the one with Tom Cruise.

Speaker 3 42:03

Oh.

Speaker 1 42:03

Minority.

Speaker 2 42:04

Report Minority Report yeah.

Speaker 1 42:05

That was good too. I like that. The precogs yes.

Speaker 2 42:08

Right, and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 42:09

I do believe that the future is definitely going to get to a point where the future's so bright.

Speaker 2 42:16

Yeah, I got a wish.

Speaker 1 42:18

Unless we get reincarnated and come back. Dude, I'm going to be a cyborg. Look at the face you're in.

Speaker 2 42:25

You might be able to do it, man. No, I just feel that you know the things that we should change. We could change the Borg. I don't want to be Borg, I don't want to be one. Yeah, the Borg, I don't want to be one. No, you don't want to be the Borg. I don't want to be the Borg, but you know where that came from, right which part.

Speaker 1 42:39

So it's my understanding, if I'm not mistaken. So remember the Star Trek motion picture, yes, where they took what was it called? Again, they were calling it the Creator.

Speaker 2 42:51

Remember she was right. Yeah, oh, wow yeah.

Speaker 1 42:53

Okay, they kept calling it a visa, but it was a Voyager.

Speaker 2 42:56

Right and it got caught and went to this machine world and it came back.

Speaker 1 42:59

Now, what the machine world wanted was to connect with the humanoid. Oh, so she did with one of the people from the thing, which in turn, later on came to Borg. Blown right down the line, the machine consciousness took over and there you go. There you go, a little Star Trek.

Speaker 2 43:20

That's a lot of Trek If I'm off on anything, please.

Speaker 1 43:23

I don't mind being corrected. You can go ahead and hit us online Facebook. Instagram, tiktok, yep, you know.

Speaker 2 43:31

So with that YouTube, we'll end with that, with the Star Trek.

Speaker 3 43:36

Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2 43:37

Time's up. Sorry, guys, you know. So, with that, thank you guys for listening, like, follow and everything. Like Lou just said, thank you very much for being here with us. Love, peace and hair grease.

Speaker 1 43:48

Live long and prosper. Stay weird.

Speaker 2 43:51

Holler.