Glitches In The Matrix

Ever had a day stretch like taffy while everyone else swears it dragged too? Or swear the Monopoly man wore a monocle and “Luke, I am your father” was the line? We unpack the strange comfort of the Mandela effect, the goosebumps of deja vu, and the seductive idea that glitches aren’t just brain bugs—they’re debug logs from a world running on code.

We start with the classics: Berenstain vs. Berenstein, Jif vs. Jiffy, Looney Tunes spelling, Curious George’s missing tail. Then we push beyond trivia. What makes a crowd share the same wrong memory? Is it cultural telephone, film quotes, or the frequency illusion wiring our attention? From there, we examine NPC theory as a metaphor for everyday life—those uncanny moments when people seem to repeat lines, cities repopulate with look‑alikes, and traffic appears right when you try to leave the script. The Matrix and The Truman Show become our cultural tools to think with, not answers but maps.

We question sky oddities and “frozen birds,” balancing camera artifacts and AI fakery with the experiences that refuse to tidy up. Comics, The Simpsons, and sci‑fi get their due as early rehearsals for tech that now feels routine—autonomous vehicles, low‑altitude “fliers,” and immersive worlds that make simulation theory feel uncomfortably plausible. Along the way we ask whether simulation frames can also hold spiritual ideas: avatars, afterlives, and life beyond the host body.

By the end, we don’t demand belief; we invite better noticing. Learn the biases, log the anomalies, and keep your sense of wonder switched on. Hit play, then tell us the one “this can’t be real” moment you still can’t shake. If you enjoy deep dives into memory, perception, and the edges of reality, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a quick review to help more curious minds find the show.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Setting The Stage: Glitches In Reality
• 0:20 Defining Glitches And Deja Vu
• 0:45 Mandela Effects: Famous Misremembrances
• 3:00 NPC Theory And Background Characters
• 4:45 Ghosts, Programs, And The Matrix
• 6:10 Time Slips And Perception Of Duration
• 8:45 Repeating Numbers And Cognitive Bias
• 10:45 Truman Show Logic And Invisible Walls
• 14:20 More Mandela Examples And Why We Misremember
• 19:00 Doubles, Pattern Matching, And Faces
• 21:00 Sky Glitches, Birds Frozen, And AI Fakes
• 24:00 Alternate Timelines And Comic Book Multiverses
• 27:20 Predictive Fiction: Simpsons To Sci‑Fi
• 30:00 Tech Futures: Self‑Driving And Flying Cars
• 33:20 Simulation Theory And Afterlife Frames
• 36:00 Twilight Zone Parables And Perspective
• 39:40 Imagination, DNA, And Sci‑Fi Becoming Real
• 42:40 Wrapping Up: Are We Stretching Or Seeing

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:03

Live from Robert Stillias. Have you ever seen something like white in the same exact way? What if the Mandela for batteries aren't bad memory? What version of it? Today we are talking about glitches in the matrix. Oh yeah, so today we're talking about things like glitches in the matrix things in where things just don't make sense in reality. Well, a glitch could be something like deja vu, right? We all do that. That's a very common Mandela effects. You know, we're talking about the tic cat. Yeah. Like something like tick-cat. Everything's there's an iPhone in there, but there is no hyphen. There's never been a Baronstein bears. It's the same with the song We Are the Champions, right? Oh yeah. They think they say the and I think it's no world and it doesn't happen. It just goes wing champion. And then it dies out. Oh, the world. Shut up. You know, but this is actually on the way home, right? Yeah. You're gonna be like, oh why it's not there. Because I remember I know I make fun of that's one of the glitch that's like the button. Yeah, the Mandela. Yeah, absolutely. So but another uh glitch is like reality where things don't make sense. Yeah, that's a loose kind of thing. I put that things like that. So much of the NPC behavior. Some people, there is a belief that uh if we are living in there are NPCs, there are people who are part of the system that are just not main characters. What do they say? NPC in a video game is a non-playable character. Even though like in GTA, what do they do like all these shit freaks? They just say random shit. Yeah. Like those are NPCs. Yeah. They're not playable characters. They're just kinda or like a character who's talked to when they just go and they give the dialogue and they go. Sometimes you see a little people where they just like seem like they're spitting up dialogue and there's only nothing coming out of their mouth that they understand it. But that's the same thing we're talking about, like with ghosts. Are ghosts really ghosts or disparits, or is it like, you know, matrix? Is it that you know what I'm saying? Could be both. Different things that it that they say. I mean, we talked about all that kind of different shit. That's you know that's true, that's true. Because you see the matrix, the when uh the two that they were like they were able to go in and out of zipping and out and whatever that they were chasing Trinity and Morpheus down the highway for the key. They were already at the well, and you know what's funny, because right before that, remember when the Oracle says something like if you ever seen anything, heard any stories about ghosts, bamboo, right, right, right, right. It's a program doing something they're not supposed to be doing, exactly. Yeah, and you got and you saw the ghosts that were acting like ghosts. Yes, exactly. But another glitch in the matrix could be time abnormalities where things don't ask us time-wise, either you know, maybe time dilation or you know, you hear stories of like planes leaving and then the the the clocks don't match up by five minutes or something. They showed up five minutes early for things like that happening. Yeah. Well, I'm McDonald's point too. This week, was it just me? Well, this week seemed like it was dragging on. The work day, I guess it's like when I got up every morning, I was like, uh, yeah. And that work time seems longer. And you know what? And it's not, and it when that happens, if you talk to other people, people will be like, yeah, it does seem that way. So it's not like uh you ever realize it's is it a personal experience or is it Is it really happening? Like is it is it alive or is it memory? Or are we noticing something that we didn't really pay attention to to begin with? I feel that things go faster because when I think about the times when I'm younger and what I was doing in the course of that day, I got a lot done. You know what I mean? Okay. So not to say that I don't now, but it was a different time. So now I don't think I was running out of time because I stayed up later, I was either watching a baseball game, and then I didn't go to bed until like 11:30, 12 o'clock, and I had to get up for work six, you know. You know, just saying, right. When you're young, it's different. But then as you get older, you start to realize there's also another one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes you'll see a number repeat over driving over and over. Now psychologically does explain this. They do have a psychological thing saying that it's just like one of those things when you notice something pops up. Like you know, buying uh Wrangler, all of a sudden you go, Oh my god, that's a lot of two Wrangler's on the road. I didn't notice this many. So that could be there is a thing in psychology, you know. I don't want to say it's definitive. Right, right, right. But you're right about that though, because when I do see the number that I always told you guys about before, eight five one. Right, it's always something that would happen before I noticed the number. So in other words, I'd be oh shit. That's right, so whatever it might be, right? And then I'll go, well, eight five one. So I would put them together because of that. Yeah. For whatever reason. You know what I mean? That makes sense. That makes sense. For some reason that number would show up. Yeah. And there is some kind of culture references to like blushes in the matrix. And I don't mean pop culture like the matrix where it's obvious, but like think of like the Truman show. Like, you know, we're living in a simulation, but like maybe Friday Truman show. Maybe maybe the only one. Maybe you guys are actors. Right. Reminiscent of one of us is only in simulation, right? Yeah, everybody else is actor. Well, I don't know. Sometimes somebody shit that people say to me, I'm like, Yeah, but wouldn't you know that those you're saying that, right? So so what do we then? If we don't recognize that or understand it or know we're an actor, then how does that work? If that person doesn't know. Well, that's the thing. Right. It would be like, you're the only one that's a real person. Yes. Exactly. So you're the mirror because we're we're vibe like right now. So we'll take this like three of us sitting here. This kind of gets a little existential, like it'll be that. But like it's like Tom, it's you know, this was his idea for the show. So now we're gonna ride up with what he said. And we'll actor it on the threwman. So you guys don't doubt what you're doing. No problem. We're gonna we're gonna improv up with what yeah, doing that's and by the way, if anybody hasn't seen the film show, the movie with Jim Carrey, one of the more serious movies he plays. I had funny scenes, but it wasn't. Oh, it did. He was great in the movies, but like where he was like, it was like a reality show, like a whole channel that just follows. He saw us to pick it up. Everybody else was actor, saw us to figure it out. Yeah, like things start to happen. Like now it's too much of the same thing. Every time he tries leaving, all of a sudden all these traffic just appears out. The car just in the middle of that. Right, right. You try to get somewhere and traffic is there. Like you wonder, yeah, right. Are they building? They don't want me, they don't want me going in the middle of this. Yep. Or you're gonna be like sort of like it's keeping you safe every year. Right, yeah. Well, that's the whole thing. Is it really keeping you safe or they just build preventing you to be involved with whatever's going on up ahead? Right. Or like to like Tom is saying, right, is it that it's they're they're coding it. So we really are in the matrix and they're setting the code up for us to go further down, you know, 84. You know what I mean? So now there's traffic, you know what I mean? The lights are red. So like when you're coming out of your house, you go. They don't want to stay in 84. We gotta take the background the other one. Right, exactly. You see? There it is, bro. There it is. Yeah, but you're right. There's so many, I mean, so many different things that you say that clicks. It's like I know that movie's a real mindful. Yeah, it is. Because like Yeah. Was it the other one like that? Well, no, it wasn't. It was something different. That was different. There was another movie where the dude he was the main character. All right, a ride around. Looks at me. Oh, oh he had turned around a few times. Sorry. Yeah, but that guy that he was uh he had the camera following him around and stuff like that. It was different. But no, the Truman show. My kids were actually the ones who told me about that. So I needed to watch that. Yeah, they were big about the movies. Yeah, and it was good. I like the whole concept from the broke free at the end. Right, right. That was that. He said it for one last time at the end of the case. But it would see sorry. If you haven't seen it and I ruined it for you, well that's but you know, one of the other things like I mentioned earlier was Mandela. Right, right. You know, Mandela effect happened a lot. There's a lot of examples where everybody assumes it's one thing, but it's not. And that makes you wonder. Now, again, I brought up the Barenstein Bears, right? And the Barrenstein bears. Right. Technically, it's stuh spelled Baron stay and not stain. Right, right. The Monopoly man. Everybody always assumes the Monopoly man has a monocle. Yeah, he does it. Yeah, why is that? Because you'd like a proper rich guy back in the day. Yeah, and for some reason I think I'm one of those people probably have collect the entire bears. Right. That's another one. Yeah, because I always remember it for some reason. So um possibly I did at one point. Yeah. Yeah, but you're right about that. I forgot about that. That's that's yeah, that's interesting. I like double. Also, look up Star Wars fans here. Right. He never says, Luke, I am your father. No, no. He just says, I'm your father. He doesn't say I am your father. No, he doesn't say that. I am your father, though he says. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. That one I remember. And of course, I bring up the one, Sinbad, as a genie. Yeah. You know, a lot of people think he was like in Shazam or something like that, or he just was a movie with him as a genie. Right. And it's funny because I swore he was in a movie with a genie. He never was in any movie as a genie, Sinbad. Right. The comedian Cinbad. No. And also another one is the logo for Fruit of the Loop. Everybody thinks there's a cornucopia in it. No, it's just fruit. Is it a fruit? Yeah. But a lot of people think that it has a cornucopia. And I remember a cornucopia. See the why? Because I thought there was another level of underwear that had that in there. And that's why. I don't ever remember cornucopia. A lot of people think cornucopia. Yeah, why don't we? Absolutely. Yeah. I don't ever remember.

unknown: 10:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 10:37

Very cool. Very cool. I love this stuff. That's fun. Yeah. But so now, Luke, that's what we're saying. So now why do we remember it this way though? Why what is that? Is that the glitch in the matrix? Was there an update? This for some reason we we heard it that way. You know, for whatever reason we believe, because or we've seen it or heard it or whatever, or both. And that's how it stays in your head. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. I got one done. But I d but again again, I really don't know what the answer is, to be honest. Yeah. Well, okay. Peanut butter. Yeah, what matter? Jify. Jiffy.

unknown: 11:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 11:12

It's JF. Yeah. But people, Jiffy, because it was I I remember. No, no, Jiffy J-I-S-F-Y. On the jar. But it was I remember a commercial that way back when that somebody in this commercial had said jiffy. Okay. So then people I think then made that. That makes sense. Jiff. I only know Jiff. And I don't I don't remember ever being Jiffy on the bottom. But I think some pop culture things do change things in people's minds. Right. Like for instance, the Luke, I am your father. Right. Who said that in one movie? So was. No, no, no. Actually said Luke I am your father. Yeah, that actually said it was let's go. Yes. Oh, yes, yes. What do you say in front of the family? But that would be but I think people saying Luke, I am your father before that. Because I am your father. People aren't gonna assert your feelings. We know it to be true. Yeah. But people are like, they have to reference the movie. So then I'm gonna say here if I say I am your father, you well, what the fuck you talking about? You're not my fucking father. No, dude, the movie. You never saw a Star Wars, Luke, I am your father. You would say or do something, which is not everything, but that it would be the reference. This way the people that you're talking to would catch the reference. You know? I mean, you're we'll we'll say something about Arnold, and then that's when we get you to turn around and say, Arnold, and you'll make the joke. They'll do something about the movie or whatever. Right. Is that part of the the uh is everything that you're saying? The equation? Right. Is everything that you're saying in the movie? It's already pre-received, and then it's gonna be sort of been written and you're gonna do it now. Right. You know what I mean? Because it's a program. There you go. There you go. All right, boom. Looney tunes. Yeah. Go ahead. Oh, yes. Right? So it's Looney Tunes. Originally. Go ahead. Is it Tunes? T-O-O-N-S or T-U-N yes. T-U-N. Everybody thinks it's T-shirt. What was Curious George again? See, now I wasn't really familiar with it. The man with the yellow hat, curious George called the monkey. Right? Yeah, the monkey, the monkey, yes. Tail or no-tail. Yeah. Okay, wait a minute. Wait, wait, don't say nothing. Yeah. I'm gonna say tail. No tail, though. Wow. No tail for curious. That I remember too. I remember that one, no tail. Yeah. Very cool. That's the reason why people the same with the Captain Kirk thing. He never says Scotty beat me up. No. But the reason why it's called the Mandela effect is because when Nelson Mandela died, people thought he had already died. People were like, didn't he die like a while ago? Right. Because he was locked up. He was in jail. Yes, right. So everybody thought that he was killed in jail. Right. You know what I mean? Because so the idea, but I mean, so now I don't know. That one of the biggest. I remember when he got he got out of jail. Yeah, he got out of jail. And then he became president. And he became president of the channel. But everybody thought that he was dead in jail. You know what I mean? But to me, there was that that that that conspiracy you know, say that he's dead in jail because he was fighting the power. You know what I mean? You said that he's dead in jail. Oscar Meyer. M-E-Y-E-R, M-A-Y-E-R. And they sing the song. And you why? Is it? Yeah. Wow. Mayer, not mine. Like John Riley. Yeah. That's right. Yep. That's right. Because then it makes your mind think. You're trying to tell me John Mayer's thoughts. Have you ever experienced anything that you well you've saw are glitches? Well, there's a lot of different things that have been caught on camera. Right. Glitches in the matrix. Maybe some stuff caught camera, but repeating pedestrian behavior. Where sometimes they'll see like maybe someone across and the someone looks exactly the same, or sometimes people wearing the same outfit. Right. So, you know, that again, that goes kind of based into the whole NPC thing. You know, the whole NPC theory, you know, is if this is a simulation. Audience. You know what I mean? Like kind of thing. Yeah. There's been videos of birds frozen in mid-air. Right. Uh, and this is way before AI exists. Because now it's kind of like, and that's the problem too, is like you could be like, oh, well, it was an AI video. Some stuff you can figure out. So I I think I'm pretty good at it when I see a lot of stuff. It's they use the same voice a lot on AI, too. I mean, I listen, it's just a matter of time where it's gonna get to where you have to have a good eye for it. Yeah, also the way that you're gonna have to know the lot of like I'm here at the park, and so and so is that the five that that's how they they always talk the same. I don't know why. Yeah, and I think they do that on purpose. Right, just say you're supposed to know if that's how to help no. But they also now have websites that scan photos. I don't know about for videos, but you can scan photos to tell the band, especially with scanners and scan an image AI. AI and I sourced it was made from AI. Yeah. Which is good that they had that job. Right. At least yeah, that's why, but you know, we spoke about this before, you know, and Alba was always like, damn, this matrix shit is like, I mean, it's it is it it was real. It it feels like it could be and it could be, because of all of the things we've been talking about, you know, this evening, you know, Mandala Fay, you know, just when we double tape, we see something, we hear something, right? You know what I mean? You're like, what the hell? What was that? Well something. Yeah, you know, you're looking at something, and it's like walk into the channel. Yeah, well, you see your doc will game, you know. Here I am on somewhere else, and I was like, was that fucking Lou? And I'm calling Lua. Lua, you Tom? Wait, you wear Tom? You know what I mean? You know what I will say? I look just like you, and I took a picture of him, and you're like, Look like me. Look like me at all. So it's maybe inside that person. Okay. Oh, well, or that you look different, then you look different to yourself than people look to you. Oh, you look to people, I'm sorry. It's like you look one way to me and to you than what you see yourself in the mirror. But you know, you look like somebody else. So I think you know, it's the thing that would make so we are when we're born, we see the bottom half of the face I believe is what it is. Like the nose down. That's how babies are gonna get their parents and stuff like that. You know, it's not the whole face. I think it's that one, the lower half of your face. Right. So then as we get older, we start to look and catch other things on people's faces. So that now I'm looking at you right now. I go and it's whatever one thing that I see about your face that I will see that looks it it looks familiar on somebody else. On somebody else. That's probably what it is. Like, oh shit, that that guy looked like Tom. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, that's smirk. That guy looked like Tom, you know. Oh shit, the way that guy, I thought that was loot, because the way he had the hat on, and I was looking behind. You know what I mean? It's always that one something. Yeah, or you know, but I I I would say for me, deja vu is probably the one thing that you know you should think, oh I can't die. And there's been other situations where into the sky and they and everything's pixel. Oh, do the I saw that the blue. Yeah. Yeah. But I it's kind of hard to tell though, because like, is that the camera? Is it is that like a digital and it's always the pictures are never clear and they're always blurry, so you know, right? Or is that actually like, or is it oh my god, you know, it's the matrix or the matrix every minute slate, or is it like a camera? That's a tough one to because of the angle, yeah, you know what I mean, how far away it is, right? Yeah, you know, it's a is it real or is it a mess up in the course of the memory? The Mandela effect I think is the biggest thing that we question. Yeah, does it doesn't make sense? Yeah, people. Why is it that a majority of people or a large mountain bully something to be one with? Right. But it's right, yeah. Like we said before I doubt it. Some people even say maybe that's a it's an alternate reality. Like yeah, monster. Right? Yeah, man. You think about all the things that like we had said it before, uh, you know, you you look at the time shift is probably one of the craziest things that online shift. Is that what we're doing? Online shift, yeah, yeah, skip, whatever. Right. You know, but those are the things that want to whoa, whoa, it could be. You know, but then again, now too. Is that there's something that subliminal message that they uh you know that whoever said it and make us think that it's real? You know, is it something they we want to believe that there's alternate universes, you know, different timelines. Okay, so there are good stuff. So if there is, then is it that we're really seeing those things, that the Mandela effect is what's happening on another world? Or the opposite. There you go. You know what I mean? That shit is in city like Earth One, Earth Two. Yeah, Earth 2057. Yeah, but still they they were doing that stuff. It wasn't called the Matrix, but still they would they were alternate universe is not the same. Well, quite comic. Comics were uh whole maybe whole you know multiple um parallel universe theories, except Earth 2, airverse, yeah, yeah, Snyder verse, no counter. I remember seeing a DC card where Superman scans another Superman from another, you know, another Earth to he's from an open earth. She's like, How do you know? He goes, His organs are on the opposite side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Bizarro. His heart and everything. Yeah, like Bizarro, though. Remember Bizarro? Yeah. Everything else, yeah. Same thing. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And you think about if the comics were writing it, how true is it? As we said before, the Simpsons. The Simpsons are doing things. Yeah, that that's there's that happens way too often. Yeah. There's like a couple times you'd be like, that's a coincidence. Yeah. Why is it that it just happens over and over so they they they show, oh, look, at this time in the This episode of the Simpsons Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, bro. Oh yeah. That and hello? Is that the Mandana thing?

unknown: 22:09

No.

SPEAKER_01: 22:10

You know what I mean? Well, the other thing about the Simpsons episode there some people will be like, oh, this is going to happen because this was in a subset. And then I thought I had a saying it. Just shut up. There's the stuff that they want. You know, the stuff that really should or is gonna happen. Like more real. Wait till it's to happen first and then talk about it. You don't wanna Yeah. Well I mean, look at what what was it? Uh look back to the Future. Like this time in Back to the Future. We're supposed to have flying cars and self-signed shoes. This time on it. You know what I mean? And having the uh the the clothes that dry yourself off and stuff. Nobody listen, I remember reading uh not the students back in high school, junior high school, I remember them reading students, our parents' our parents' uh uh stories, the things that they wrote or essays about what the future was gonna be. And a lot of the stories were crazy. Like one had them helicopters taking you to school every day and that kind of stuff. Yeah, it was they kind of thought the way we did, you know, flying cars and all that other stuff, but it never really happened. I mean, we had helicopters and everything, but it was just not like that. But it was interesting to listen to some of them, you know, to read it. We had a teacher read it off and some crazy stuff, what they thought now, and then of course when they got to their future, it wasn't like that. Yeah. Well, imagination. Imagination. I think built because we already do have. There are flying cars, though. There are. Yeah, it's just it's gotta be only you'll never see it that high in the sky number, right? Yeah, you know, but the thing that in doubt now why is in operation now, is self-driving vehicles. Right. Right. Yeah. What's if 15 years from now they make it where no one drives anymore? Everything's just autocraft. Just kind of like in the time. That I believe would be more plausible. Um minority report, was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where that the where it scales the buildings and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I I I would say an autonomous vehicle, like where it's like mandatory, where like no one drives anymore anymore. And not only that, you imagine how official people traffic is from us being assholes and trying to go around things and trying to run after every time you jump lane, you know, we'll see what happens. We won't be around for you and I'll be gone or it would you know, and there would be no traffic because it might for it would make the traffic matter internet, but right for all the cars to get together, they would network in all ways where there would be no traffic. Right. Because they aren't tied together with everybody. And it wouldn't happen. That makes sense. I was watching this thing on social media where they were showing this one car that could actually fly, but it would be more like the same level a normal car drives at. In other words, you just be hovering. But then you have those go those crazy go-karts they have now that you can get in and fly. They only go so high. Oh, okay. And you know, you can drive for like a good half hour or so, 45 minutes, and it's it's like a go-kart in the air. Yeah, so it's really unbelievable. It's great. Oh, yeah, I'm sure too. I mean, decline out. Get off and then go back. I'm assuming somebody's operating that drone somehow, somehow. No, no. That's fully automated. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Well, I mean, but is anything? Would you do it in the car? You know, would you would you get in a fully uh you know autonomous car? No. Yeah. Yeah. Like the wildest one that I saw. I mean, it's like like tax like taxi, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Look look at um I will smith iRobot. Yeah. And iRobot. I mean uh every vehicle, you know, you can hit and do the you know, it's self-drive or whatever, you know. The Molition Man, you know, yeah, that and then the foam. Yeah, yeah. We thought you had to put all into fucking great. But you know, it's just these are things that have been spoken on, thought about forever, you know. Is it so then now we'll go back to is it really the Mandela effect? Is it really a glitch in the matrix? Or is it that it's literally just evolution, you know, just how we think, how we're doing things, you know? Yeah. We won't know really, probably until we're gonna even when how you said too late by that point. Well, you said you turn around if your spirit turns around and looks back that it's gonna take you back to the motherland, take you back home, take you back home where you came from, right? Or you would just get recycled. That's one of the theories. Right. And then you'll become passed and you'll be born again. So now when I said turning around and seeing, you know, and going back home, we're gonna turn around and be like, oh shit, it really was a matrix, you know what I mean? Like we really were locked up in this shit, you know? Yeah, so the thing is too, is like simulation. Like, like, so the so the basis for glycerin is that we're in a simulation, right? Right. The whole thing here is just like there's a lot of people that really believe that like the odds that we're in like based reality low because you know, one of the things one of the ears things if we can create a simulation, then who's to say that we're not already? Anyway, right. But then how would we be allowed to do what we're doing right now if we weren't? They want to control that and they wouldn't want us doing what we're doing right now. Well, but again, it's like anything else. Oh, I saw there was this, there's this animated, and it's called Sword Art Omla. And everybody puts on the opinion, they lay back in their beds or they're couched in their chairs or whatever, and now they're fully submerged into this thing, you know, this this whole thing. And that's their life. That's where they are, that's where they're happening. You know what I mean? Living and doing those things where they feel like they want like in a 3D world or something. Yeah, exactly. Like just them running through here and doing whatever. Like, you know, technically, we would be sitting, you know, I'd be in my house somewhere in West Book, whatever, and me coming over here and hanging out, you know, doing the podcast is like, oh, this is what I want to be, this is what I want to do. I want to be something that I'm not in my regular life, in my regular world, you know, so then now, you know, would it that if is that really what it is? But we've been doing it for so long, we forgot. I love learning about it. Yeah, it's just a fun thing to learn. Yeah, and not to just like read up on. And one of the things was one of the things it was like, oh my god, so yeah, for real. Well, wouldn't it be freaking would it be cool to turn around and be able to do that? Be in a simulation? Oh, that I don't know if I would want to do one. I I would hope it wasn't. Yeah, yeah, I hope it wasn't. What's it like? What's it? That's it, right? That's so realistic. And that's what I just said, you know? And you forget that you we didn't want it. So that would mean everybody would forget because your parents and their parents and everybody know because even the significance somebody would know about. So as far as anybody's concerned, who's who is part of the simulation? Yeah, right. Who's really who's just part of the simulation? So part of the game. Yeah, like Tom said before, you know, there's the people that are the fake, the the computer programs, and PC, the NPCs that are in there, you know, so then now we're like, okay, Lou, are you really real? You know, is the guy that was walking past the field is, you know, is was he real? But now I've made you, you're in my video game. So you're in my reality. That then now I've made it to the computer has upgraded to where, you know, and reading everything that I'm asking about or thinking about, then now you're real, quote unquote real in my my game. I don't know. I don't know if I buy it like that. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. But it again, this is just the theory, you know, as far as magic is concerned, you know, the glitches in it, but the the mandal is not a good thing. I'm just saying, this isn't anything we Yeah, no, no, no. It's not teaching. Yeah, you know. That's real. Right, yeah. Well, the that's it, the mental effect, everything that we've seen, you know, in Mandela effect, I'm gonna I'm gonna I I am I'm just saying it. When we see those birds that are, you know, frozen in the stock, the airplane that's you know, flying looking like it's flying backwards. Is that just like we said before, just optical illusion? Well, I know that like that I know that if if a plane is flying towards you and you're driving towards it, right? It does give that optical illusion. Yeah, yeah. And I remember seeing a whole video on that. The same thing with water moving, too. Right. It's like a windy day in the water, like I got some athletes, right? And if you're in the opposite direction that the wind is in, it doesn't look like the wind. It's kind of not good. Yeah, frozen. It's bringing. I haven't seen that before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's wild. But then they also had people with pictures and like they have um a squirrel who'd be sitting out there and just kind of like frozen. There's a couple of games. You ever seen people who are getting fight? Yeah. Person was like, just stop, not moving, you know what I mean? FBC. Like think of like, bro. Imagine, think of how many times are you on the subway in the city, right? Yeah, and you see a bum laying on a bench at on the platform. Right. Is he real or he's just there? Because we've bumped down the track. Yeah, right, right. Right. Yeah, yeah, like that, see. But I, you know, or that, you know, we actually we walk down, we come down the stairs, walking on the platform. There's a payphone and the area laying on the bench. We're not paying him any attention. He doesn't get up, he's not moving, or whatever. You know, us because like, ah, it's just another bump. We get on the train and we leave. He's actually just that one, you know, person, that one code that's there, that's a non-player. It's just somebody that's there. If we turn around and we go and we poke him, like, get away from me, leave me alone. You poke him again, get away from me, leave me alone. We poke him again, get away from me, leave me alone. I say this one phrase. Right. That's it. You know what I mean? That's that's the I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I feel you. But you know, I said that's I watch a lot of ancient aliens and so I'm all in it. I get it. Crazy stuff. But the yeah, I guess a repeat like that would be interesting if that actually really happened. But I'm trying to think if I had anything crazy happening, yeah. You guys have the experience. I can't really say. And you know what? If I do, I'll probably gonna remember after we had like the done. Well, even like the deja vu. That I get a lot. Yeah, it's a bit uh idea. I'll I'll be going. I feel like I feel like I'll share. Yeah. One of the craziest things that's a weird feeling, I get. Oh yeah. I would mention that the craziest thing I ever saw. I was in my 20s backyard. I'm looking up at the sky, a new cloud, and it's spinning and spinning out new clouds. Like it was making clouds and spin up spin and they would just like grow and then form another one, and it would spin and grow really like in a conveyor belt. It was the weirdest of that's crazy. And this was it had a phone at the time, and it's before smartphones, and it was like one megapixel, I have to make sure. Like when you take a video of the sky, you're like, oh, blah, blah, blah, I want only one view of it. Yeah. But now you can, but that's yeah, but now you've never seen it again. So right now, what fun never happened again. Yeah, and what about those crazy clouds that they have on where they show you and they just kind of follow people, they're on the street, they move, and you know what I mean? Do you ever see those? Yeah, it just kind of float and level, and they just they have like some kind of life to them. Right. Some kind of it's weird. I would love to see like the cartoon where a raining cloud follows someone and walks on. Yeah, right. Lightning. Lightning it's on them. Yeah, what's the matter with you? You having a bad day? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah. But then you go, that's another, that's that's another, I guess we'll say, version of, you know, having that glitch, you know, in the matrix, you know, the uh Mandela thing. This just it's crazy, man. Is it really happening? Is it just our imaginations? You know what I'm saying? The Twilight Zone, I guess. Like now we're talking about it, you know. Everybody that's watching us, they think about it, they're like, oh wow, what was that? You know, what about now they get in the car? Tomorrow they're in the car, they're driving somewhere, us driving home tonight, you tomorrow just looking around and whatever, and poof, you know, oh shit. We were talking about this yesterday. You know what I mean? It's a subliminal. It is something that we've heard somewhere, seen, and that we're like, yo, I wonder if that's real, that that really happened. Is it happening? You know, I like to think that we're not just like, you know, cattle, I guess. You know, we're not just batteries like in the movie. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? That it's just cattle. Yeah. Dude, that was so insane. You know, but that what what would make people comfortable that they would just be this kind of I say, I guess, um company. Didn't somebody blow the whole um matrix thing out? It was the nail nailed grassy guy. Yes, he said there was a flaw in it and it had to do with uh the formula wasn't right or something. He says, because now they have to be fed food, right? You know, that they have to eat in order for them right now. So then, you know, he was saying that changes everything in a sense because of that one thing. But because of what's the where the new ticket part comes in. Is it different that our bodies actually you didn't mention though, because in the movie, you're actually eating those who already passed. And so they make it into a lit in you, and then they feed you when you feel right. Yeah. You know what I mean? Listen, food doesn't have we don't need food to be a cow, a chicken, or that, you know, we could have plant-based foods. Period. We know that already. You know what I mean? And survive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's insane. You know, so then it's nothing to have a greenhouse, put up some niffy ass lights, and shit is gonna grow. So then if they turn around and put it into what the robots, the machines, or whatever it is that's feeding us through this matrix, it's nothing for them to turn around and, you know, make it, make it happen. So most like that's that's one version of other things, the other version of simulation theory is that it explains long religion, is that the simulation theory explains you know, before life, after life, all the stuff that religion says. Right. Is that that's just the simulation. Right. Like, you know, like that heaven or whatever it is, like the existence outside of the simulation. Right. This is just the host body. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we're gonna be out and we're the star. We're the avatars. Right, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um that's that's a uh that's that's probably more feasible. I mean, considering what we know, but we're assuming, I guess, you know, as far as the universe and shit is concerned, you know? That's not too many. Exactly apart from that. Yeah. But not but like it's a simulation without a reality. Right. And that's what I'm saying. Maybe we all plugged it to this fucking occulus, bro. You know what I'm saying? Without even knowing, I think we we even know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, put it back on, put it back on, put it back on. It's a pretty shitty game if there is one that's probably gonna suck. Yes. Yeah. I'm not my quarterback. You know what I mean? Well, I say, yeah, start over. Yeah, yeah, very yeah, start over, redo. Doom over. Exactly. Again, but this is what we feel is our reality. Don't forget the Twilight Zones did that as well. Right. Yeah. That stuff when it came to aliens or like the one I like a lot is so this says this toy story is real, right? In a sense, because remember the one where they had all these people and they were like in this in the box. I don't know, in a like a drum or something, or a can, and they were trying to get out of it, and it wound up being dolls. Right. They were trying to get out of the trash can and they would fall out, and then they someone put it back in. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. You remember that one? You ever see that one, Tom? No, you got on top. The ballerina, someone from the army, or something. The army guy was when they were trying to get out of the room. Right. Twilight Zone Zone. Yeah, yeah, I remember that one. Yeah. The clown. Right. Clown, and then they tried again, and he finally gets old and he falls out, and then someone picks him up with some night. Yeah, but see, but see not even a good outline. So the other Twilight Zone one, that I thought that was a pretty good one, is uh this couple, they're on a in a neighborhood. They're walking through, like, come on, we shouldn't have drank so much. And she's like, You drank too. You're trying to get out. Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. When they turn around at the end of the show, the episode, come to find out that there's that they were dolls and the giant alien. They were pets. They were pets for the giant alien. Someone stole them from earth and brought it back, and then and they were in there like in their little model or something. That was good. You know my favorite Twilight Comments. Where they didn't learn they all wear the mask. Yeah, and the but the basics. Oh, the face all messed up. The the rich father was all pissed off at them and whatnot, ladies and gentlemen. The way they died. Yeah, that was a good one. But again, look at all that stuff. These are ideas that were put, I'm gonna say, we're gonna go with the matrix stuff, you know. These are ideas that were put in our heads. These are things that, you know, it is it real? I mean, real thing, you know, are we really living the life that you know we're here? You know, all the ideas, all these things that we that we think about, you know, the matrix. These are things that we'll put in our heads. We're gonna turn around and I can take, I can tell you, oh, yeah, so your shirt was made out of bamboo, not cotton. Yeah, but then you can go into the whole alien thing where you could say, we sent from aliens. And that it's in our DNA to strive for that, to go to space and everything. So that's where all the sci-fi and all that comes from, and then a lot of that stuff comes through. So all that stuff is already in your DNA. It's just so your imagination is what's making it come real life. Yeah, even though it was just in a movie. Exactly, Moon, though. You know, so that is it. Is it real? Is that what's going to be if we keep wishing it? It's real. We better make it happen. You know what I'm saying? It's real. Like you said, the one uh something that you that you said that that sticks is when we compare the sci-fi movies, you know, between Star Wars and Star Trek, Star Trek seems to be more of the more of our reality, you know, us moving forward evolving right now. You got a lot of that in Star Star Wars too, because I like the way the ships, like shuttle ships and stuff like that. I love what they have that in Star Trek too, but I think those that will be as well. I mean, they're getting close to making uh a lightsaber, so well, yeah, you know, it might be reality. Yeah. Yeah But yeah, I get what you're saying. No, you're right. And sci-fi, it's not only those two but it's not only those two things, though. It's everything, a lot of stuff in wife and in sci-fi, I should say, that we've seen through the years that we're like, oh, you never know. You know, certain things. Yeah. And usually it comes true, right? The phone, the communicator, it was they got to the moon. Remember, they were thinking about going to the moon back in the day when there were just black and white movies and they were still you know, like they were, you know, and no sound. Yeah, making that whole thing. And then we land into it, and these people get off the ship and everything, and then now they think it became reality. Right. What's our reality? They flew isn't already new, you know, one of them things. I'm digging it. I love that stuff, you know. It's cool. You're messing me up with the Mandela effect idea though, bro, because like I said, I was I'm following this guy on social media. I just saw him the other day, and I'm just take bottle, and uh, so I can't remember his name. He's talking about Mandela effect and all these different things that you know that he's seeing, that he's paying attention to. So and I'm like, whoa. Yeah, but now we're aware of the Mandela effect. So that's the thing that's so weird about it. We're saying these things happen, but everybody know of it. Right. Yeah, and there you go. So now is is this us like stretching it. Is it athletic or isn't it? Yes, exactly. I love it. So with that, thank you for everybody for listening. I'm gonna episode something for sure. Thank you, Tom. I thought you're gonna say the Schwartz. So with that, thank y'all for listening. Like, follow, send us messages. Appreciate you guys. Love, peace, and air, grease. Live long and prosper. And keep on keep on good and keep on and keep on.